{"id":27732,"date":"2009-08-25T22:02:14","date_gmt":"2009-08-25T12:02:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/?p=27732"},"modified":"2015-09-02T22:08:46","modified_gmt":"2015-09-02T12:08:46","slug":"steve-gorman-of-the-black-crowes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/2009\/08\/steve-gorman-of-the-black-crowes\/","title":{"rendered":"Steve Gorman of The Black Crowes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Black-Crowes.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-27733\" title=\"Black Crowes\" src=\"http:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Black-Crowes.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Black-Crowes.png 400w, https:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Black-Crowes-300x225.png 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" \/><br \/>\n<\/a>Just an hour and half before the Black Crowes are about to hit the stage for the first date of their newest tour, drummer Steve Gorman takes a minute or 15 to chat to us at MTRBWY about the new Black Crowes album \u2018Before the Frost\u2026 Until the Freeze\u2019 due for release on August 31, as well as their extremely busy career spanning 20 years. He has seen it all and he gives us an insight into the music industry these days and just what happened when the band first hit the scene back in the late 80\u2019s as well as his theory as to why Kurt Cobain is no longer with us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Hi Steve how are you going?<\/strong><br \/>\nI\u2019m good thanks how are you?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Good thanks and thanks for taking the time to talk to us<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, no worries, thank you.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So to kick it off, The Black Crowes are about to release their 8th studio album in &#8216;before the frost&#8230;\u2019 with a second album &#8216;Until the freeze\u2019 being given away with a download code from\u00a0inside &#8216;before the frost&#8217; as a thank you to your fans for their support correct?<\/strong><br \/>\nAbsolutely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tell us a bit about the new album. What can fans expect?<\/strong><br \/>\nUm, well that album is you know it\u2019s the, every album we make is looking back now at least, it\u2019s just a really great snapshot of where we are right now.\u00a0 And this album is all taken from sessions we did in February \/ March up at Levon Helm\u2019s barn in Woodstock New York and it was recorded with basically an audience, we had 200 people come in each over 5 nights, each night and we just ran down take after take and tried to get good takes of the record, it\u2019s a live album actually of new material so we wanted to do something kinda cool,\u00a0 something kinda different make it\u00a0 interesting for us and fun for the fans and then when we sat back and listened to five nights of recordings we realized we\u2019ve got a record here already made so it\u2019s a nice sort of, it\u2019s a nice example you know its truly a record of that little brief period of time.\u00a0 And the second album its all taken from the same sessions, I think the first group of songs simply put, tie together like a Black Crowes record a lot of people would expect it\u2019s a, you know all the different elements that we put into you know what we call Rock and Roll music there\u2019s some country touches and some folk stuff and some soul stuff and there\u2019s some blues stuff but it all makes sense as a Black Crowes Rock and Roll record and I think \u2018Until the freeze\u2019 the one we\u2019re giving away is it dives a little more into some specific folk, country and like Appalachian influences without really kinda rounding it out kinda stays, it\u2019s a little more of a straight line some country and some bluegrass stuff on there that people might not really associate with the band, so for casual fans anyway, I think, people who have really paid close attention to us over the years aren\u2019t surprised when we do this sort of thing but the casual fan the second record is definitely would be a little not exactly what they might expect from us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And you\u2019re releasing it on vinyl as well as a double album which is great<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah well there\u2019s still enough you know old timer freaks like us who like things on vinyl so we\u2019ve gotta try and take care of everyone<\/p>\n<p><strong>And it sounds better<\/strong><br \/>\nIt absolutely sounds better, in fact there\u2019s never even it\u2019s never even been close in my opinion as to what sounds better<\/p>\n<p><strong>So was recording the songs in front of fans a new experience that you\u00a0enjoyed?<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah it was great, it really keeps you on your toes, I mean simply put, we kinda threw it we did\u00a0 you know we made \u2018Warpaint\u2019 in 07 and we really felt good about it getting in and making another record again for the first time in 7 years and that was important with the line up as it is right now and it really set us sort of on a course so when we wanted to get back in it was important to us not to, you know to go right back in to a normal studio again necessarily you know we were just trying to, it was a casual conversation about what we can do to make this more interesting and how can we sort of challenge ourselves and it started as a conversation of \u2018lets have like a dozen fans\u2019 lets just give away some raffle thing and we\u2019ll take 12 names and they can come watch us and then it was like \u2018yeah\u2019 it started there and that\u2019s it and then by 5 or 6 conversations later we\u2019re suddenly set up in a barn and like 200 people come in it really kinda grew and it turned into a really great vibe for those 5 nights for people that showed up its something they\u2019ll always remember and then they can thankfully it was good enough and we could be happy with it enough to think well actually this could be the next record it\u2019s a great example of where our heads are so it started as things that started small tend to if you keep your eyes on just trying to accomplish something for the moment usually that\u2019s what you\u2019re able to then go forward and take out, if we had plotted this out as \u2018lets find a place where we can put 200 people and sell tickets and make a live record and were gonna have to get a live record out of out it, we would\u2019ve blown it, you know, you cant have too many expectations you gotta trust the moment, if the vibe hits and the momentum is there you just grab on and hang on as long as you can we cant really direct these things.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What was the songwriting process for this album?\u00a0 Did you have them already set or was it something that came up in the studio?<\/strong><br \/>\nChris and Rich got together with Paul Stacey our producer about a week ahead of the band showing up and we had been working on ideas over the tour last year you know there was a lot of stuff we\u2019d all been playin on but they sat down just the 3 of them you know 2 acoustic guitars and 3 guys in a room with no clutter and just lets write and lets really confirm the arrangements and here\u2019s the songs and so when the band turned up a week later you know we had they\u2019re sending us, they\u2019re making demos and\u00a0 just emailing them over every night so we showed up having heard the songs already and then its like pick this one out here\u2019s the arrangement this is the parts and what does everyone hear then its like then I would have an idea I think the drums go like this and everybody would go try this now try this its like the bass is obviously here you know the arranging part is something the whole bands involved in and that usually comes together very quickly because its really rare that there\u2019s 2 very differing opinions on what a song should feel like, its almost always like \u2018oh that\u2019s gotta be like this\u2019 and its like \u2018yeah of course\u2019 so we don\u2019t experience a lot of \u2018I really hear it this way\u2019 and someone saying \u2018I really hear it differently\u2019 at this point we\u2019ve been doing it so long they fall together very quickly.\u00a0 And then our self editing has gotten much better too that\u2019s what you also realize you get into something and we can all look at each other and kinda go \u2018this isn\u2019t happening\u2019 you know, its not very cool so we don\u2019t get stuck digging ditches too often we move on if we haven\u2019t hit something at the bottom yet.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well you\u2019ve done it long enough to understand that sort of thing now<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, yeah<\/p>\n<p><strong>You\u2019re working with producer Paul Stacey again you\u2019ve been working with him for a couple of years now since 2006, was he an easy choice to work on this new album?<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah he was the only choice, we\u2019ve never worked with someone for more than 2 albums and id like to think we\u2019re gonna work with him again, he\u2019s just got, a bit of it is we\u2019ve grown up and so we\u2019re able to listen to people better but then he\u2019s also just got a great insight, very much understands our band, in a way that he can explain what he hears in a way we can understand.\u00a0 Production is 99% communication you know, I mean you can have a great producer that you done communicate well with and you don\u2019t make a great record you know you can have an OK producer that communicates great and you make a better record, I mean so when you\u2019ve got a guy with great insight and is supremely talented and can communicate what he hears and feels and we\u2019re able to hear and we\u2019re mature enough to accept it, you know the results have gotta speak for themselves so I feel great having Paul.\u00a0 You know Paul actually toured with us as our guitarist in 06 and 07 we had a series of dates\u00a0 where before Luther was able to start touring with us we had had dates booked and found ourselves without a guitarist all of a sudden so Paul stepped in and he\u2019s a spectacular musician so he more then held his own with us and so he\u2019d get an insight you know when you spend 3 months on tour with a band you know that\u2019s more of an insight than any producer can ever have, he\u2019s playing with the band every night for a few months so he\u2019s definitely the perfect guy for us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>With the way music is these days and the ability make it yourself and to release music independently, such as the Black Crowes now do.\u00a0 do you think now is a better time for a band sharing the same ideals as the Black Crowes to be arriving as a new band? Is it something that they should latch on to and say \u2018well I can do it too\u2019<\/strong><br \/>\nI think so, you know the thing is, its funny I did an interview earlier and a guy was asking me about all my favourite bands when I was coming up and I grew up loving the Beatles more than anything and then Led Zeppelin and the Stones and the Doors and all the great you know I\u2019m 44 now so I was growing up in the early 70\u2019s listening to Led Zeppelin you know and Little Feat but those bands and being a fan of those bands never inspired me to be in a band you know how do you go from my parents basement to being in the Beatles? It doesn\u2019t make sense and still when I got to be a little older and id go and you see a band in a club you know, that you can relate to and that can hot you like \u2018well I can probably do that\u2019 you know, so the bands that really inspired us you know aren\u2019t, weren\u2019t big bands at the time.\u00a0 Some of them became big bands, I saw REM in a club with 100 people when I was 16 and that just blew my brains out because I thought, I can do what those guys are doing, yeah I can get a few friends and try this, so if kids see our band I think the focus on it is, yeah you gotta kinda come up with your own path and the music industry has changed so much and for the most part gone away for so many people that you can set your own course you know if you have something you believe in if you\u2019re a young band and you guys are all, I mean the most important thing is to all be on the same page because a group of like minded people can get a lot done. You know the hardest part about being in a band is just being in a band, its just staying together and keeping everyone , you know our manager used to say it was like you break open a thermometer and then try to grab the mercury and keep it all together you know what I mean, you\u2019ve got a bunch of guys who are all very opinionated and very strong passion for this, its real easy to start driving each other crazy, so if you got guys and there are young bands out there starting something then its like if you guys can all agree on where you\u2019re trying to go, you can get there, I mean these days you can do things yourself, you can record a great record in your house, you can get it out literally as many people as you can, if you can get people to listen to 5 seconds of a song online you\u2019re way ahead of where a band could have been 20 years ago.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Now we saw you in 2008 here in Australia and the show was amazing, can we\u00a0expect to see you back any time soon?<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah I certainly hope in 2010 we\u2019re just starting dates tonight in fact in like an hour and half it\u2019s the first show of this tour for our new album and this is going to take us through December \/ end of December here in the States, and then hopefully early next year, that\u2019s just a total, gotta see what on a business side of things what makes sense and if we can put together a deal with an Australian promoter that makes sense we\u2019ll absolutely come back down.\u00a0 One thing we all said last year is we\u2019re not waiting another 16 years to get back here you know we want to come back as soon as we can.<\/p>\n<p><strong>When you were here you\u00a0played with at the Blues &amp; Roots festival. Did you get a chance to check out any of the Australian artists and if so what you thought of them?<\/strong><br \/>\nNo, we just flew in the night before you know we got added to that late, wed booked our dates and then they said well you can jump on the festival so we weren\u2019t initially booked for that festival so we weren\u2019t staying up there in Byron Bay, we were staying like down south a couple of hours somewhere on the water, so we got in the night before you know so everyone was completely upside down and then we just drove in a couple of hours before our set, we played our set and then we drove out and flew to Perth so it wasn\u2019t the ideal way to take in Byron Bay<\/p>\n<p><strong>As a young band starting out, even then\u00a0your mentality seemed that to be mainstream, or in anyway popular, was a less than ideal thing but before you knew it \u00a0you were all over MTV and selling millions of records. Was this a struggle for you to deal with as a band given your mentality and resentment of the corporate machine?<\/strong><br \/>\nOh absolutely, you know when you spend a few years as a band when you get it in your head that anything that\u2019s popular must clearly suck and all of a sudden your record is very popular it\u2019s a definite bizarre thing to have happen, I mean the good news for us is that it took a year for that to happen, we were touring and out working it you know our record in the States it went platinum after like 12 months and that\u2019s quick to go from like 0 to 60 you know basically to go from absolutely nothing to a platinum record in a year is pretty good but you know, its nothing like Nirvana dealt with, they had 3 weeks their record was number 1 in its 3rd week out I mean that\u2019s not right man and I can tell you right now, anyone wants to wonder why that guy couldn\u2019t handle it and decided he needed to kill himself well that\u2019s why, you go from nothing to just all of its in your head and you hope and that you accomplish way more than you would\u2019ve ever dared to dream about it, it can be incredibly confusing, I mean the only way we dealt with it was to just keep working, we were like afraid to take a break.\u00a0 Then you\u2019d go get your head back in the real world and really freak out so we stayed on the road for almost 2 years, went in made a record went right back out on the road and we did it that way for our first 3 records, at the end of the \u2018Amorica\u2019 tour at the end of 95 is the first time we really just tried to breathe a little bit.<\/p>\n<p><strong>At the time the Black Crowes arrived, big hair, big riffs and even bigger ego&#8217;s dominated the scene. That must of been some interesting times for you with the tours and crowds you must of been playing to?<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, oh yeah, it was funny to us cause we were definitely not coming from that world you know, I mean mindset wise we were totally about The Replacements and a lot of Southern bands, Southern independent bands from the 80\u2019s like bands that were doing it very small scale, I wouldn\u2019t say we weren\u2019t afraid of success but we were afraid to pursue it the way that other people did. And so when we would get lumped into the hair band scene and anything to do with Heavy Metal none of us understood on any level I mean we still don\u2019t.\u00a0 I mean it was definitely a weird thing when you\u2019d see yourself and you\u2019d hear people say all the bands of that time and the Black Crowes and we were like, how in the world are you lumping us in with Poison?<\/p>\n<p><strong>It was the long hair that was about it<\/strong><br \/>\nHa ha yeah that\u2019s another reason we said lets just keep working and lets just look up in another couple of years and maybe all this will be done<\/p>\n<p><strong>Well you\u2019re still doing it which is great, so we hope to see you soon and we\u2019ll catch up for a beer or 2<\/strong><br \/>\nYeah, I would say 2 at the least. Cheers<\/p>\n<p><strong>Thanks Steve, we\u2019ll talk to you soon<\/strong><br \/>\nPleasure.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Crowes.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-27734\" title=\"Crowes\" src=\"http:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Crowes.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"289\" height=\"472\" srcset=\"https:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Crowes.png 289w, https:\/\/maytherockbewithyou.com\/mtrbwy\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/09\/Crowes-183x300.png 183w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 289px) 100vw, 289px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Just an hour and half before the Black Crowes are about to hit the stage for the first date of their newest tour, drummer Steve Gorman takes a minute or 15 to chat to us at MTRBWY about the new Black Crowes album \u2018Before the Frost\u2026 Until the Freeze\u2019 due for release on August 31, as well as their extremely [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":27733,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,5,4],"tags":[5354,2636],"class_list":["post-27732","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-8","category-features","category-interviews","tag-steve-gorman","tag-the-black-crowes"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.3 - 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